I have found a silly mistake: instead of lossless i wrote losless.
Now, I am able to see my music in Tidal. I can play my favourite albums but not my playlists.
Also, not available a search option for music in Tidal. In summary I think that the experience for using Tidal thru this method is quite limited.
I hope that volumio team will soon release a much more complete Tidal -Volumio experience.
Anyway this method proposed by Klapaucius works and i cannot but say thanks !
I use Linn Kazoo as a control point and can search TIDAL on Volumio perfectly! Search performance is not earth shaking but it works. Highly recommended!
A few more informations:
Your version is almost 6 months old. I don’t why you are not shown any updates, as there have been around 6 releases since then. There is a new version 2.411 released just 2 days ago (15-06-2018). It contains the same upmpdcli version as the previous release. To find the upmpdcli version type
upmpdcli -vOn a current install I get
Upmpdcli 1.2.12 libupnpp 0.15.1Maybe the easiest way is to set up a new SD card with a fresh download, and the reapply the modifications. I just tried that with 2.411 and can confirm that TIDAL works as with the previous version.
One important thing: I noticed that I could no longer install any Volumio plugins. The reason is that we changed the password of the volumio user. It seems that the default password has to be restored in order for plugin installation to work. To achieve this type
sudo passwd volumio(leaving out ‘sudo’ will not allow you to restore the all-too-simple default password!) Enter the current password and then set it back to ‘volumio’. After doing so, point your browser at http://volumio.local/dev and disable ssh, The best thing would probably be to set up a different user and disable ssh for the volumio user altogether, but I’m too afraid of breaking things so I’ll refrain from doing that. I’ll just keep ssh off except when I need it.
I’ll try to update my original instructions.
*** Updated instructions ***
I think I have found a relatively easy way to achieve TIDAL streaming with the current Volumio version (tested with 2.389 and 2.411) using upmpdcli, which is already present on the current distribution. Hints to this solution came from https://volumio.org/forum/volumio-bubbleupnp-server-the-same-rpi-t7571.html.
Basically what I did is configure upmpdcli’s TIDAL plugin. This starts an OpenHome media server on the same machine that you can select from the list of available media servers. This works both via Volumios WebGUI and from a UPnP control point (in my case, Linn Kazoo). In order for this to work you’ll need to log into your volumio installation using ssh.
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Enable SSH access to your Volumio device if you have not already done so (in your browser go to http://volumio.local/dev and click ‘Enable’ in the section labeled ‘SSH’).
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Log into your Volumio device using ssh:
ssh volumio@volumio.localThe default password is volumio, which makes leaving ssh access enabled very insecure. However, it is not advisable to change the password of the volumio user since Volumio itself seems to depend on it; e.g. plugin installation will no longer work if you change the password. Note: Restoring Volumio’s ‘Factory Settings’ also restores the default password and disables SSH access!
- Make a backup copy of volumios upmpdcli configuration:
sudo cp /volumio/app/plugins/audio_interface/upnp/upmpdcli.conf.tmpl /volumio/app/plugins/audio_interface/upnp/upmpdcli.conf.tmpl.bak- Open the upmpdcli configuration file in an editor:
sudo nano /volumio/app/plugins/audio_interface/upnp/upmpdcli.conf.tmplIf you’re like me and prefer vim, you have to install it via
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install vim
Attention: Never issue an ‘apt-get upgrade’ command or your volumio insallation will most likely break!
- Add the following new lines at the end of the config file:
### Tidal
tidaluser = username
tidalpass = password
tidalquality = lossless
Replace username and password with your TIDAL login credentials, and ‘lossless’ with ‘high’ or ‘low’ depending on your subscription and available network bandwidth. Lossless is best. See the documentation at https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upmpdcli/upmpdcli-manual.html#plgmicrohttpport for details.
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Save the file and exit the editor. In nano press Ctrl+O, then Ctrl+X. In vim, press Esc, then :wq followed by Enter.
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Reboot:
sudo reboot- Turn SSH off again by navigating to http://volumio.local/dev and clicking ‘Disable’ under ‘SSH’.
When the reboot is complete and if everything went OK you should now see a new media server in the ‘Media Servers’ section, most likely named ‘volumio-mediaserver’ if you did not change he name of your Volumio install. This ist the OpenHome Server providing TIDAL streaming directly on your Volumio device!
Navigating TIDAL from Volumio’s WebGUI is very basic. You’ll get a much better user experience with Linn Kazoo, with searching and cover images just like with Linn’s own players.
These instructions should also work for Qobuz if you use the appropriate lines in the config file (see https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upmpdcli/upmpdcli-manual.html#tidalquality), but I haven’t tried this as I don’t have a Qobuz account.
Let me know if this works for you.
Regards
Victor
You’re most welcome. Glad if I could be of help!
Dear Victor,
I am new to Volumio, etc… What I am using with Volumio is the act. SpotifyPlugin wit RP3b+ controlled from Android SpotyApp by selecting Volumio as player - Wonderful!
Now my question (I did not got all of your post): Can I use your workaround with “upmpdcli” like I do with Spoty? E.g. choosing Volumio direct fromTidal App?
Thank you a lot for an answer
Jürgen
The TIDAL app (at least in iOS) does not offer playing through an external player, only locally on the device. So to play TIDAL using a Volumio player, you would have to use the setup I described, and control it via either the Volumio WebUI (works so-so) or a UPnP control point app like Linn Kazoo - that’s what I use, an it works very well, search function and album art inclusive.
Or is it something else you’re trying to accomplish?
Hi, is it true that in Step 4 I will have to do update and install VIM first, the Open the upmpdcli configuration file in an editor?
And in Step 6, after saving the file and exiting the editor, how can I do “In nano press Ctrl+O, then Ctrl+X. In vim, press Esc, then :wq followed by Enter”? I guest I’ll have to go in to “NANO” and “VIM” but just don’t know how to…
Thanks in advance
I’m sorry if this is a bit unclear, I’ll try to explain: To edit the config file in step 4, you can use any editor you like. If you’re comfortable with nano (which is present by default), there’s no need to install vim, so you can just type
sudo nano /volumio/app/plugins/audio_interface/upnp/upmpdcli.conf.tmplIn this case (using nano), the steps necessary to save and exit the editor in step 6 are pressing Ctrl+O, then Ctrl+X. That’s all.
As I am used to using vim instead of nano, I also provided instructions for it. As vim is not preinstalled, you would first have to install it, and the commands for saving and exiting are different than in nano.
However, if you’re not familiar with any of these editors, I suggest you stick with nano as it’s quite intuitive and you don’t have to install additional software. So, just ignore any instructions pertaining to vim.
Hello Klapaucius, thank yo u fo r clarification!!!
Juergen
TIDAL is now available with native integration into the beta MyVolumio image 
Get started here:
volumio-101-get-started-here-t10224.html
Thank you very much.
I stream now Tidal directly from Tidal and think the sound is a little more precise than through Bubble Upnp I was listening before.
This is a very good start and I am seriously thinking about buying a Katana Allo Dac(I use now the Digione wich I apreciate in SQ)
What are your impressions after few days of listening Katana?
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I can confirm that klapaucius method using upmpdcli also works perfectly for Qobuz. The navigation is primitive, but it works. Thx!
Just follow same instructions as klapaucius explained for TIDAL (in this thread), but (instead) use the next fields for username, password and quality:
qobuzuser=“login” #Qobuz user name. Your Qobuz login name.
qobuzpass=“password” #Qobuz password. The password for your Qobuz account.
qobuzformatid=“7” #Qobuz stream quality. 5 for mp3/320, 7 for FLAC if your subscription allows it.
Someone: please integrate this with a VOLUMIO2 release!!! This is already too-anticipated and -delayed. Hopefully, you can make the “search” work too.
Cheers!
Hi, everyone.
Thank you for the tutorial on how to install TIDAL streaming in VOLUMIO (via volumio_mediaserver)
Please pay attention:
DO NOT UPGRADE to v2.502
With the latest MyVolumio service being avaiable, the program blocks “volumio_mediaserver” feature.
User must pay monthly in order to use uPNP (the service automatically include TIDAL/QOBUZ plug-in).
As soon as I update my Volumio to v2.502, “volumio_mediaserver” disappeared immediately.
Anyway, I have backup so I just downgrade back to v.24XX
New versions of volumio do not block absolutely nothing. So don’t make false claims when you don’t know what you’re talking about!
Its most likely an incompatibility of some sort with the utility you were using before.
Hi, it just won’t show 'volumio_mediaserver"
with Version 2.44, I go to [Browse] => [Media Servers] => [volumio_mediaserver] => Tidal
*when I set up Tidal, I use Putty on Windows 10 to access my Rapsberry Pi 3 B+
edit these files according:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install vim
sudo apt-get install upmpdcli-tidal
sudo nano /etc/mpd.conf
audio_buffer_size “2048”
buffer_before_play “10%”
sudo nano /etc/upmpdcli.conf
add my tidaruser, tidalpass, and tidalquality according in Tidal streaming service parameters
then, I go to
sudo nano /volumio/app/plugins/audio_interface/upnp/upmpdcli.conf.tmpl
add
##tidal
tidaluser = myloginemail
tidalpass = mypassword
tidalquality = lossless (as my subscription type)
then reboot
sudo reboot
It works ok on Version 2.444
with Version 2.502, I go to [Browser] => [Media Servers] => no more volumio_mediaserver (just disappear. no show up again)
*I have not changed any settings as listed above.
Anyway, I changed to “BubbleuPnP” now (Volumio Version 2.502)
with BubbleuPnP, I can do the following
Using my Sony Xperia to control Tidal Streaming
Using my Sony Xperia to Access and Control music files from my Windows 10 PC shared HDD (6TB).
Using my Sony Xperia to Access and Control music files on my NAS (QNAP).
Using my Sony Xperia to Access and Control music files from my Android device.
Additional note: I also enable “Optical Drive Plugin” for CD music disc playback, using an USB LG DVD drive.
Audio output through “digital coaxial” ==> my Teac UD-501 ==> Grado Labs SR80e headphone
*I2S DAC (turn on) - HiFiBerry Digi
just to be clear,
I use VOLUMIO since Version 2.1X,
then upgraded to 2.413-2018-06-21
then upgraded again to 2.444-2018-07-26
then joined all the beta versions
then upgraded to 2.502
I have no issue to access
(1)my music files in my NAS(QNAP)
(2)my music files in my Windows 10 PC’s shared folder
(3)Airplay( through Volumio app) from iOS devices *playing Tidal / MOOV (both are hi-res lossless music streaming
(4)Airplay( through Volumio app) from iOS devices *playing musics in the devices.
(5)Wireless playing music files on Android devices through Volumio app.
(6)Playing Music CD directly.
I just add uPNP features for Tidal streaming on VOLUMIO directly for case study, and this is the only issue that I encounter with Version 2.502
Thank you if you can explain what I have missed.
Your comments are very much appreciated.
I think that there could well be problems with using this technique as Volumio is updated. If you add additional software/scripts/whatever to the standard Volumio distro then you run the risk of conflicts and things not working as you would expect. There is no reason to suggest that Voumio is “blocking” anything here. The onus is on YOU to fit YOUR modifications in with updated versions, rather than vice-versa.
Personally, I’m very much in favour of people doing exactly what they want with their devices and Volumio, but you need to understand that there are often consequences to actions
Hi, Thank your for your reply.
I also did two additional tests,
(1) Clean original V2.413 VOLUMIO installation on a new SD card.
*no plug-in
*no add-on
*no CD optical drive plug-in
*not even link to NAS or to PC’s shared drive
*EVERYTHING IS STOCK AS IT IS
*only added TIDAL plug-in (upmpdcli) according to this post.
(2)Clean original V.2.444 VOLUMIO installation on a new SD card.
*no plug-in
*no add-on
*no CD optical drive plug-in
*not even link to NAS or to PC’s shared drive
*EVERYTHING IS STOCK AS IT IS
*only added TIDAL plug-in (upmpdcli) according to this post.
In both cases, both V.2413 & V.2444 work ok and able to see “volumio_mediaserver” in “media server”
then able to access Tidal
Then, do a system upgrade via LAN connection to latest v.2.502
Instantly, after reboot, “volumio_mediaserver” is missing from “media server”.
in “My Music”, it shows
uPNP Renderer - active
**********by the way, I did another CLEAR INSTALL VOLUMIO v2.444 again in a newly formatted SD CARD.
after did the TIDAL plug-in according to this post, reboot, see the “volumio_mediaserver” and able to access “TIDAL”.
then, I did an upgrade to v2.502.
I see this on the UPDATE NOTE:
Update v2.502
NEW ADDITIONS
Add checkcontentformat = 0 to upmpdcli conf
Anonimyze IP for GA
Add multimedia keys support
pi kernel bump to 4.14.71
FIXES
Better handling of error toasts
Fix handling of uncompliant DLNA server
fix volatile default albumart
Fix stop state if no service is defined
Improve volume responsiveness and add disable volume
OK, Thx.
Let me do things another way.
I shall do a CLEAN INSTALL of version 2.502
Then, use this Tidal plug-in technique.
Updated:
CLEAN Install STOCK VOLUMIO V2.502 on a newly fromatted SD card.
*everything is as it is.
*use the technique instructed on this post, I install TIDAL plug-in (volumio_mediaserver in media server).
Reboot VOLUMIO V.2.502
NO, NO SHOW "volumio_mediaserver. SORRY.
By the way, in “MY MUSIC”,
UPNP RENDERER - ON (active)
Shairport-SYNC - ON (active)
DLNA - ON (active)
Then there is also an important message is displayed on “MY MUSIC”
Streaming Services
To Use Streaming services you must have MyVolumio Virtuoso or Superstar enabled on this device
Update:
REMINDER: my internet router has uPnP AUTO (off)
*thus, it may be different performance than other users.
*no, I don’t plan and won’t turn uPnP AUTO (on)
Tested with multiple methods.
Main features: controlling everything from a smartphone/or tablet device
for iOS:
AK Connect (white) v1.39 (still available)
*no TIDAL
*can access Volumio-minidlna
*can access files on NAS, play to VOLUMIO
*can access files on PC’s shared folders, play to VOLUMIO
*not show DSD(dsf/dff) Hi-res music files. only support standard PCM files(FLAC, WAV, AIFF, m4a, mp3, ogg)
AK Connect(black) v.2.10 (not available anymore)
*TIDAL support
*can access Volumio-minidlna
*can access files on NAS, play to VOLUMIO
*can access files on PC’s shared folders, play to VOLUMIO
*not show DSD(dsf/dff) Hi-res music files. only support standard PCM files(FLAC, WAV, AIFF, m4a, mp3, ogg)
AK Connect(black) v.2.11 (latest version)
*TIDAL support
*can access Volumio-minidlna
*no access files on NAS
*no access files on PC’s shared folders
M Connect
*TIDAL support
*Qobuz support
*Spotify support
*can access Volumio-minidlna
*can access files on NAS, play to VOLUMIO
*can access files on PC’s shared folders, play to VOLUMIO
*not show DSD(dsf/dff) Hi-res music files. only support standard PCM files(FLAC, WAV, AIFF, m4a, mp3, ogg)
TIDAL app
*directly play to VOLUMIO
Allcast
*no TIDAL
*can access Volumio-minidlna
*can access files on NAS, play to VOLUMIO
*can access files on PC’s shared folders, play to VOLUMIO
*not show DSD(dsf/dff) Hi-res music files. only support standard PCM files(FLAC, WAV, AIFF, m4a, mp3, ogg)
*can connect to “Chromecast” (to TV, monitor)
For Android device
BubbleuPnP
*TIDAL support
*can access Volumio-minidlna
*can access files on NAS, play to VOLUMIO
*can access files on PC’s shared folders, play to VOLUMIO
*not show DSD(dsf/dff) Hi-res music files. only support standard PCM files(FLAC, WAV, AIFF, m4a, mp3, ogg)
M Connect
*TIDAL support
*Qobuz support
*Spotify support
*can access Volumio-minidlna
*can access files on NAS, play to VOLUMIO
*can access files on PC’s shared folders, play to VOLUMIO
*not show DSD(dsf/dff) Hi-res music files. only support standard PCM files(FLAC, WAV, AIFF, m4a, mp3, ogg)
TIDAL app
*directly play to VOLUMIO
Allconnect
*no TIDAL
*can access Volumio-minidlna
*can access files on NAS, play to VOLUMIO
*can access files on PC’s shared folders, play to VOLUMIO
*not show DSD(dsf/dff) Hi-res music files. only support standard PCM files(FLAC, WAV, AIFF, m4a, mp3, ogg)
*can connect to “Chromecast” (to TV, monitor)