# File copying over network

**URL:** <https://community.volumio.com/t/file-copying-over-network/63287>\
**Category:** Help\
**Created:** [October 17, 2023, 7:13am UTC](https://community.volumio.com/t/file-copying-over-network/63287 "2023-10-17T07:13:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Bigguy2018](https://community.volumio.com/user_avatar/community.volumio.com/bigguy2018/32/684_2.png) [@Bigguy2018](https://community.volumio.com/u/Bigguy2018)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 7:13am UTC](https://community.volumio.com/t/file-copying-over-network/63287/1 "2023-10-17T07:13:00Z")

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I have a RPi3 with HiFi Berry DAC running Volumio - all good works and sounds excellent.  
Music is stored on a USB attached 1TB 2.5" HDD.

The problem I have is copying files over the network - this works fine if done in chunks of less than 4GB, but fails when trying to copy whole folders (Music 550GB) with 30K total files.

“There is not enough space on usb. You need an additional x.xxGB to copy these files.”

Is this a limitation of RPi3 (my RPi4 doesn’t mind copying whole directories), Linux, SAMBA or something else like RPi RAM size?

Is there any way to get round this problem other than pulling the HDD and attaching to PC directly?

Should I format the HDD as NTFS rather then Fat32 ???

TIA

PS I’m running Windows 11

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**Author:** ![generikz](https://community.volumio.com/user_avatar/community.volumio.com/generikz/32/20201_2.png) [@generikz](https://community.volumio.com/u/generikz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://community.volumio.com/t/file-copying-over-network/63287/2 "2023-10-18T01:21:59Z")

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If you can SSH to your Volumio, try “df -h” and if overlay is 100% used then you have maxed out Volumio’s internal filesystem – even though there might be plenty of space left – and will have to reflash Volumio from scratch to fix it.

They way they connect to external devices (/mnt/INTERNAL/ or /mnt/usb/) is mounting the filesystem via overlays and you can’t regain space used by a previous file when adding a new one. Space will only get consumed, not released. They can’t fix it.

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**Author:** ![dvo](https://community.volumio.com/user_avatar/community.volumio.com/dvo/32/23371_2.png) [@dvo](https://community.volumio.com/u/dvo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 8:22am UTC](https://community.volumio.com/t/file-copying-over-network/63287/3 "2023-10-18T08:22:46Z")

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> [@Bigguy2018](#):
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> “There is not enough space on usb. You need an additional x.xxGB to copy these files.”

is a limit on your usb stick? there is no space left to copy it all.

if you want to copy over your network use this :

> [@Radio Nowy Swiat Plugin for Volumio2](https://community.volumio.com/t/radio-nowy-swiat-plugin-for-volumio2/39877/33):
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> wookie do you have a pc or only the pi? Use winscp and putty ( both are windows programs ), they can help you getting it on the pi and unzip it on a pc [https://winscp.net/eng/download.php](https://winscp.net/eng/download.php)[https://www.putty.org/](https://www.putty.org/) hostname : \< your ip \> port :22 User name: volumio Password: volumio and press connect navigate to volumio folder on the pi and drag and drop the extracted folder in to the folder volumio now we gonna use putty and login to the pi open putty same way to connect use …

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**Author:** ![gkkpch](https://community.volumio.com/user_avatar/community.volumio.com/gkkpch/32/17306_2.png) [@gkkpch](https://community.volumio.com/u/gkkpch)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 11:36am UTC](https://community.volumio.com/t/file-copying-over-network/63287/4 "2023-10-18T11:36:51Z")

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> [@generikz](#):
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> if overlay is 100% used then you have maxed out Volumio’s internal filesystem – even though there might be plenty of space left – and will have to reflash Volumio from scratch to fix it.

That is not quite how it should be, in case there is plenty of space left, you had a faulty system to start with. On first boot, Volumio _should_ extend the data partition to the disk’s full capacity before the overlay is created, if it didn’t, you have an issue.

> [@generikz](#):
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> They way they connect to external devices (/mnt/INTERNAL/ or /mnt/usb/) is mounting the filesystem via overlays and you can’t regain space used by a previous file when adding a new one. Space will only get consumed, not released. They can’t fix it.

And this statement is not quite correct either.  
I don’t where you get this from, but external disks have nothing to do with the overlay. It is just using a mount point from it.  
You can read and write them normally, incl. writing to released disk space.

If you don’t know exactly it how it works, it is sometimes better not to write about it.

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**Author:** ![DSDLover](https://community.volumio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@DSDLover](https://community.volumio.com/u/DSDLover)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.volumio.com/t/file-copying-over-network/63287/5 "2023-10-18T18:48:04Z")

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The same to me here. I access the USB via a Mac. In the drive info it states that only 112, 32 GB are available, even if it is a 1TB drive. I found out that it is the free space of the Micro SD card. The funny thing is that I can fill the USB drive (1TB) with 100GB at a time and it works. Now my SSD is half full and everything worked correct. It is just the information passed to the Mac that is not correct. Why, I don’t know, but it worked.
